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28.1.21

Q Drops The Ball

https://rumble.com/embed/vapr0z/?pub=4


 Q hasn't posted since 8 December 2020.  Donald Trump has (apparently) left office.  The Qult and Qvians are in disarray.  None of Q's predictions came trye and all the Q Proofs can be explained without Trump in the loop.  And, of course, folks are linking Q to a Russian op called Operation Trust.

So is this the end?

Producer Bernard Grover joins Jeff Rense on Rense Radio on 26 January 2021, to discuss where things stand and where the Q Phenomenon is going.

15.9.20

Drinking The Qool-Aid

Note: the list of previous articles on this topic has moved to the end of the page.

UPDATE 11OCT20: Radio Far Side will host a livestream discussion of the Q Phenomenon on 13OCT20, with guests Joseph P. Farrell and Catherine Austin Fitts.  Join us for this special event: Q & the Qult - A Multi-Spectrum Analysis.

 UPDATE 26SEP20: Out long-standing thesis that the current global situation is an elite turf war seems to be catching on.

The title of this article is a layered allusion, including both Jim Jones' Guyana cult and the deadly Kool-Aid now known irreverently as Guyana Punch, and Tom (The Right Stuff) Wolfe's 1968 book The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, in which Ken (One Flew Over the Cuckoos's Nest) Kesey and his band of Merry Pranksters drove across the US in a school bus, doing LSD and mushrooms while seeking enlightenment.

These are apt allusions for the Qniverse, as the three-year-old psy-op has expanded internationally.  The global spread of Q primarily encompasses Western countries, but is not limited to them.

A recent article received some play in the corporate media, likening QAnon to the spread of the COVID-19 virus.  This is not entirely disingenuous, as memetics researchers of popular culture have long equated cultural memes to viral infections.  In fact, even the term "viral" has long been used to describe certain content that suddenly receives mass attention, as with fads or pop stars.

Please note that Q and QAnon are not the same thing.  Q is a psy-op, likely based on a strange internet phenomenon years ago called Cicada 3301.  It only posts as "Q" on 8kun in the "Patriots Fight" board, of which it is the only member.

If Q is the cause, then QAnon is the effect.  QAnon is what the followers of Q call themselves, and which I call Qvians.  The world as they see it is what I refer to as the Qniverse.  Q "drops" information on 8kun, which is then interpreted by the Apostles and Acolytes, and distributed through the Priesthood to the masses.

I deliberately use religious terms and symbolism, because the Q Phenomenon resembles in many disturbing ways a religious movement and hierarchy.  I have detailed this idea in several previous posts, all linked at top.



I have also likened the Qvians to a Personality Cult, or Qult, as early as March of 2019.  This has been picked up by the corporate media in the past couple of weeks, with tones of panic and fear.  However, since they have only taken my idea and not the research behind it, they really have no clue what they are talking about.

The Qult is by no means violent or dangerous - at least not yet.  What terrifiess the Establishment and the corporate media is that Q represents a new age of information dispersal that they will never understand nor be able to participate in.  And it is effectively countering their narratives as fast as they launch them.

This is the primary appeal of Q, and its most dangerous aspect.

Like the alien message in the Jody Foster film Contact, Q data is a multi-dimensional puzzle.  Each drop is its own message, but using visual and textual cues, the drops can be arranged to form additional layers of messaging.

This is also the connection to Cicada 3301.  Multi-layered puzzles, once decoded, provide clues to other puzzles, which then are "stacked" to provide more clues or solutions to past puzzles.

Essentially, Q is a training technology for an entirely new form of communication.  Ut us not a passive medium, like radio, movies or TeeVee.  Instead, it challenges followers to think multi-contextually, much like the titles of my articles.  The "receivers" are forced to think and research to fully understand the messages being relayed by Q.

Q delivers messages in batches, much like the nearly 100 drops in the past two weeks, then it goes silent to analyze what parts of the messages have been received and how the information is being distributed.  It then formulates new drops to "steer" the conversation either to past information that was missed, or to new information for processing.

Just as with any hierarchical system, there are those privy to the inner circule, and layers of followers down to those with only the most superficial understanding.  There is an initiation phase, in which the initiate must learn the Qvian "code," read the more than 4,700 drops to date, and learn to interpret the messages

If Q was the Freemasons, most Qvians would be in the Blue Lodge of the first 3 degrees, while a select few advance to the 33rd degree, with full access to Q deepest revelations.

Q's wide appeal is based on the dopamine response, similar to computer games and social media.  Solving puzzles and announcing one's findings to the wider Qniverse provides that critical burst of pleasure and pride that is addictive.  This is evident when Q goes into "listening mode".  The Qvians quickly start wringing their hands and wondering when the next drops will come, while going back and reparsing previous drops for hidden information.

While in "listening mode," Q is mapping networks of chatter, cataloging what is being said, and predicting behavior in both the real and vitual worlds basedd on a technology similar to clif high's webbots, combined with a powerful data mining function that creates virtual "persons" with the habits and personalities of those reacting to its drops.

Q is essentially like many marketing systems used by the big firms, but vastly more powerful.  When we surf the internet, small bits of code follow us around, log our activities, measure how long our eyes are fixed on any one item, determine which ads catch our attention, aand even follow us around the real world to see where we shop, dine and entertain ourselves.  They build an avatar of us that can be manipulated to, in turn, manipulate us.

Imagine that technology, along with aspects we don't want to imagine, backed by bottomless funding, and incomprehensible processing power and infinite storage and modeling capacity.

That is Q.

What's even more fascinating, if not frightening, is that Q has convinced the Qvians that it is one man, in close proximity to Donald Trump and working in concert with him to provide "transparency" that circumvents the corporate media.  Few, if any, can conceive of Q being a vast marketing and surveillance operation that is invading and steering their thoughts.

Q is siphoning eyeballs away from the corporate media.  At a meta level, the events of 2020 have been a clash between the dying mass media, represented by the Democrats and the Left in the US, and the rise of the interactive media of the future, represented by the Republicans and the Right in the US.

Americans are generally unaware of it, but the entire world is going through the same process to varying degrees.  There is a clash of historic proportions taking place, and like all of them in history, there are those who fear and fight, and those who adapt and adopt.  Humans are merging with their technology is a way few have foreseen.  A kind of hive mind is emerging, where we are no longer independent actors, but the sum of the media we consume.

The horse became the internal combustion engine.  The blacksmith became the mechanic.  The green grocer because the grocery store, which became the mall.  Metal money became paper money, which became plastic, and now is a QR code.  Technological change seems inevitable, and the old systems will always fight the new, until the new seems indispensible to our lives.

Q is the nascent form of a wildly new and strange technology.  It is teaching followers to think a new way and manipulating the Qvians with a power few are cognizant of.  While it is clearly and increasingly manipulating popular culture in its favor, it may also be planting the seeds of its antithesis.  Herein lies the rub.

As Sun Tzu teaches us, the best way to defeat an enemy is to control every aspect of how the enemy will react.

Q manipulates the Qvians into thinking and acting in certain ways, while at the same time "predicting" how the "enemy" will react.  This technique is essentially a digital box canyon.  The "enemy" is led into a range of predictable reactions, which are easily countered since Q created the entire scenario to begin with.

The Qvians get their shot of dopamine, feeling as if they've been part of a victory.  The "enemy" is trapped by its own actions.  And Q gets the reputation of being prescient, even prophetic.

It is entirely plausible and possible that everything occurring in the US right now, and worldwide, is being orchestrated by Q to achieve whatever end it is seeking.  Q is doing this by drawing together religion, politics, media, pop culture, and technology.  It parses history and current events through the filter of human nature, then carefully calibrates what information to inject to cause predictable outcomes.

This, dear reader, is why I am both fascinated and terrified by Q - enough so to spend three years studying and writing about it.

I suspect, with good reason, that we are all being engineered, not just by Q, but by competing systems as well.

And here we arrive full circle back at the Qool-Aid.


8.9.20

The Qult Ascendant




UPDATE 11SEP20: Qmap.pub taken offline after webmaster doxxed and report stalks him. Why so much establishment fear of QAnon?

UPDATE 14SEP20: It appears Q is going viral, with significant Q groups in 70 countries.

In March of 2019, I identified the Q Phenomenon as a cult, or as I called it, The Qult.  I did not create this label as a hyperbolic hook, but rather based on history and psychological studies of the topic of Personality Cults.  The Q Phenomenon meets all the standards for a Personality Cult, which uses next-generation technology and techniques to create, maintain and promote the Qult.

We should note that the Qult refers to itself as QAnon, or increasingly as digital soldiers.  Members vehemently deny being part of a cult, but as we will see, they meet all the criteria.

The corporate media apparently read my articles and about a month ago picked up on the cult theme, but not the reasoning and proofs behind it.  They did so without attribution as usual.  They are throwing labels at "QAnon," but they have not read the Q Drops and have not studied the Phenomenon, thus their articles come off as hollow and hysterical.  They don't cite the methods Q uses, or the psychology, or the history to show how and why the Q Phenomenon has become The Qult.

Let's begin by defining the primary characteristics of a Personality Cult.  Keep in mind that different researchers use different terms and markers, but the following is a fair summary of the most often cited studies:


  1. Personality Cults appeal primarily to males, 
  2. they seek to indoctrinate the entire population and not isolated segments, 
  3. they employ and dominate mass media,
  4. they employ a persecution complex to enhance unity and cohesion, and
  5. have a central figure or leader with god-like status.
Historically, Julius Caesar was probably the first modern-style Personality Cult.  The Caesar Cult meets all the above criteria if we assume public art was essentially the mass media of the pre-electric age.  We also know that Julius Caesar was deified, and the entire population of Rome was encouraged to worship him.

In the past century, Adolph Hitler is an obvious example of a Personality Cult.  In recent US history, Ronald Reagan fits the bill as a Personality Cult.  He has even achieved a form of secular sainthood among some political factions.  Reagan was a master of image and media manipulation.  His folksy wit, patriotic platitudes and his prim media image attracted millions worldwide, and his name is still spoken in reverent tones.

Similar Personality Cults were attempted around William Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama, but the men at the center of these efforts failed morally, intellectually and behaviorally to live up to the image that was manufactured.

Obama came closest to achieving a cult.  Early in his administration, he was constantly photographed with a halo of light.  He was given the Nobel Peace Prize before he had achieved anything worthy of the trophy.  Schools forbade speaking his name in vane.  Had he not quickly gained a reputation killing and corruption, his cult might have succeeded.

With Reagan, the image that was created and sold to the masses was that of the Great Communicator.  Only he could dominate the global stage and bring the evil USSR to heel.  Only he could repair the damage to the American Image inflicted by Richard Nixon and James Carter.  Reagan's "sainthood" was assured because he essentially achieved the goals of rebuilding the US economy, subduing the USSR, and bringing peace and plenty to the world.  We could argue actual results for hours, but the image survives 40 years later.

In contrast, no one believed that Clinton told the truth, that G. W. Bush was intelligent, or that Obama had America's interests at heart.  Not only did the personal foibles of these men prevent their cults from succeeding, but they were not media savvy and didn't understand the power of the technology.

Marketing is all about perceptions and manipulating them to create desired and predictable outcomes in mass populations.

This brings us to Donald Trump and the Q Psy-Op.

To briefly recap the Q Mythology, Trump was recruited by US military intelligence services (chosen by God) to root out corruption and "drain the swamp" (bring Salvation), and re-establish American cultural, economic and military dominance on the world stage (bring forth the Kingdom of Heaven), while inserting Judeo-Christian morality back into public life (hand down the Law).

My Q Theory is that it is a psy-op run by a group within the Global Engagement Center (GEC) of the US State Department, which is creating a Personality Cult around Trump in order to effect changes on the political and geopolitical stage, and insert a favorable ideology to counter the Globalist regime Iturf wars).  Q has established itself as an invisible force that is all-knowing and all-powerful (God) that guides followers by clarifying current events (preaching) and foretelling future events (prophesy).  Q has enlisted a powerful set of data mining and media tools, with a media savvy spokesman (Trump) to by-pass and subvert the formidable barrier of the corporate media.

With this background, let's examine the Qult using the criteria listed at top.

The Qult does indeed appeal to males.  Qvians are predominantly male.  This is not to say that females are not involved, but they do not dominate the public discourse as the males do.  This is primarily due to the military meme used by Q as a recruiting tool, and to the manufactured image of Trump as an "alpha male" stereotype.  Tis appeals to Western males, who rightly believe they have been emasculated by the popular culture for many years.

The Qult is fixated on power, strength, cunning, and duty, which are male characteristics.  It is interesting to note that Q promotes dominance and action, while at the same time commanding followers to be "digital soldiers," "enjoy the show" and do research - passive activities, which are female characteristics.  

I am not sure why this is so, but I suspect it is a recruiting tool.  The message is that if you want to be active, join the corps, as in the actual US military.  It may also be building anger by creating a desire to act, while subverting the ability at the same time.  Certainly, anger is a powerful force when channeled at selected targets.

The Qult seeks to indoctrinate the entire population.  The Qult sees itself as not just a national, but a global movement.  The Qvians see themselves as agents for clearing out corruption everywhere, and they believe it is achievable by ending human and drug trafficking, bribery and insider trading, and money laundering.  

Q has convinced the Qult that these are achievable goals, though at no time in human history have they been realized.  Wherever power and money concentrate, corruption always follows.  The only way to achieve these goals would be to disperse power and money as thinly as possible, which sounds much like the Leftist ideology of absolute "equality".

If we apply the religious metaphor that I use, the Qult might be analogous to the Inquisition or the Protestant Reformation.

The Qult could not exist without mass media.  It depends entirely on the use of websites, video and podcast platforms, message boards, and increasingly broadcasst television, as the number of reports continues to grow, regardless of emotional content (positive, negative, indifferent).  It is this latter item that is most interesting, in that Q seems to be forcing itself into public discourse by cornering the corporate media into talking about it.  In the words of P. T. Barnum, "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

The Q Commentators provide several vital functions: fostering cohesiveness, interpreting events in light of prophesy, and re-enforcing messaging amd consensus.  These are crucial to creating a group identity and enforcing a unified message across time and space.

It is essential that individual Qvians know there are other believers in the population, that they are having similar thoughts and experiences, and share common belief systems.  This creates an esprit de corps that enhances bonds between people who would otherwise be separated by physical, social or political boundaries.

The Qult uses the various media platforms to proselytize and maintain cohesion.  Isolated individuals are rarely able to maintain unconventional views when surrounded by those with "normal" beliefs.  The media provide the vital reassurance one needs to be empowered and persevere.

The media allow the Qvians to harmonize goals and objectives, and widely distribute messaging.  Given that the Qult views itself as a global movement, the mass media are the cheapest and most effective means to focus energies over a vast geographical and cultural landscape.  Use of media can expand or narrow goals and objectives across widely dispersed elements in near real-time.

The most intriguing aspect of the Q Phenomenon, in my view, is that it is almost entirely virtual.  There are no conventions, rallies or marches in the Name of Q.  It is one of the first true digital cults that I am aware of.

The Qult maintains a seige mentality.  One of the most effective marketing tools is the "circle the wagons' effect.  When a group of people who share common bonds feel threatened, they tend to form defensive patterns, temporarily putting aside internal differences to fight an external threat.

With Donald Trump as the central figure in the Personality Cult, we don't need to look far to see ample evenidence of persecution.  The Qult has taken Trump and Q as personal saviors, and with the years-long investigations, impeachment, assassination attempts, and near-universal negative coverage of both Trump and Q in the corporate media, they interpret this as personal attacks and instinctively rally, even virtually,setting aside personal differences or grievances until the threat is eliminated.

Trump and Q have been deified.  Trump has been widely, if quietly, been given the status of god-emperor.  He is commonly said within the Qult to be as great or greater than George Washington.  One only needs to look at the rotunda of the US capitol to see what status Washington has.  Trump seems well on his way to achieving apotheosis in the Qult.

Q is quoted as a kind of Gospel, with Drops numbered and studied for occult messages and hidden wisdom.  In Qult discussions, Q is said to know everything (surveillance), be unhindered by physical or political boundaries (virtual presence), and capable of manipulating human events to achieve Its Will (legal prosecution).

Q often quotes Biblical scriptures and encourages faith in God.  In practice, the Qult has at least equated if not replaced God with Q.  The two entities share common attribues and mythologies at the meta level, and both seek the redemption of Humanity by rooting out evil in all its forms for all time (Enlightenment).

As is the case with all cults, the Qult has set up a firewall in the minds of followers that prevents them from objective self-reflection.  Because they are right and good in their self-image, there can be no internal dialog concerning the hows and whys of the Qult.  In other words, the perception of personal virtue is transferred to the whole.  

When confronted with objective analysis, some will laugh it off as absurd and others will become angrily defiant and defensive, but curiously they all repeat similar phrases in their defense, meaning the responses are programmed at some subconscious level.  It is analogous to religious apologetics that dismiss inconsistencies and incongruities with hand-waiving and rote platitudes.

This highlights the final point concerning insider language and similar identifiers.  All cults develop a "shadow language," or a kind of short-hand that identifies and separates initiates from outsiders.  Key phrases like WWG1WGA, The Storm and The Plan are simple, innocuous sounding terms that are packed with meaning - a verbal wink and a nod.  This is a common feature of religions, secret societies and revolutionary plotters.

In a sense, we are all guilty of this.  Jargon within various business sectors functions the same way.  We all use verbal short-hand and insider syntax to identify other professionals and eliminate pretenders and neophytes.  With cults, though, this tendency takes on a certain mystical flavor, with the jargon serving as a kind of sacred vocabulary.

Because Personality Cults rely on a sage mentality, they also rely on security and identifying sympathetic insiders.  They learn not to speak freely to avoid detection and persecution, and thus have coded language that lets them know when they are in "safe" company.  This is no different from the trope of spies using identifier phrases.

In an environment where Trump supporters are literally being killed, much less harassed and persecuted, the Sacred Language is truly a matter of life and death.  This has been true throughout history, and is the origin of many secret societies.

In closing, it must be pointed out that the term QAnon is the self-identifier for the Qult, and the entity they follow is known only as "Q".  When the corporate media attack QAnon, the reporter is obviously, willfully or not, ignorant of the subject they are reporting on.

In all of the mainstream reports I have seen, the reporters constantly refer  to QAnon and quote Twitter messages, Facebook posts and other social media, but they never quote Q or reference the Drops, which is the primary source.  This is essentially playing into plausible deniability, and I can't believe all reporters are this stupid - or can I?

This is akin to ridiculing Christians, while never referencing the Gospels or theology.  A term like "body of Christ" (Corpus Christi) sounds nonsensical without the context behind it, and perhaps that is what the reporters are after, though they are defeating themselves - unless it is deliberate, but that is a different article.

Without the context, no one can understand the depth and seriousness of the Qult, thus it is easily dismissed as some whacky "conspiracy theory".  One cannot appreciate the passion of Qult members unless one understands the many interwoven threads that create the tapestry.

Given Q's now-three year history and the rise of the Qult, the next Big Question we will address is: Did the appearance of the Q Psy-Op precipitate current events in the US?

Stay tuned...

6.6.20

Q The Revolution

Previous posts:
Deep Throat v. Q
Q The Conspiracy - A Phenomenon
The Gospel According To Q
A-Marketing We Will Q
The Name Of The Q
Q The LARP Carp
Spe-Q-lating On Q
In The Twilight Of The Q
Jonesing For Q
Analyzing Q-Analysis
The Q Prophesy
To Q Or Not To Q
A Quantum Of Q-Bit
Surfing the Q Wave
CQ CQ CQ
Q Tips And Quislings
Some Quick Q
The Voice Of Q
The Q Treason
Q The Endgame
Right On Q?
Q The God-Emperor
Who Is Q?
Behold The Qult
Notre Dame du Q
The Q Genesis
Behind the Q Ball
The Qiller Q
Q d'Etat

As of the moment I write this, Q has posted 1,039 Drops since 26 February 2020, with a total of 4,426 since 27 October 2017.  I mention this by way of saying I have 5 or 6 abandoned articles on this topic, because things are changing and evolving so fast that it is a full-time job keeping up with it.  I invite the good reader to go to QMAP if one has the time and interest to keep up with the deluge.

The time investment is multiplied because Q has implied, and the Qvians have asserted, that the earliest Drops on 4chan (before Q was Q) are now in play.  In other words, as the Qvians put it, Q posted the end at the beginning.

There is also a significant number of Commentators on YouTube to report, parse and interpret every linguistic nuance for you if you are not into reading.  I will only recommend In Pursuit of Truth (IPOT), since creator Patrick Mack is rather level-headed and produces excellent documentaries on non-Q topics.

If you are new to the Q PsyOp, allow me to very briefly sum up the situation:

Q is ostensibly (no one has confirmed anything beyond speculation - see Q Proofs) a group of loyalist members of military intelligence, who recruited Donald Trump to run as president to aid their effort within the Executive branch to clean out corruption and insurgency within the United States federal, state and local governments, as well as destroy an international cabal that controls the power structures of governments worldwide through the use of blackmail and Satanic rituals.

For my research on the identity of the Q, I recommend the reader see Who Is Q?

The Q hierarchy looks like this:

  • God - use of religious symbolism and faith as the authority for all Q Ops;
  • Q - military intelligence/NSA using a sophisticated set of information tools and weapons to by-pass typical communication channels and control perceptions;
  • Q+ - POTUS, aka Donald Trump;
  • Autists - aka Anons, or the Apostles using my nomenclature, who "decode" Q Drops and distribute the "official" meaning and message of Q to the Qvians;
  • Qvians - my term for the Commentators, or hard-core true believers (think pastors), who spread The Gospel According to Q;
  • Qniverse - my term for the followers of Q, the parishioners if you will.
I should note for new readers that I refer to Q in the 3rd Person Singular Neuter (it), rather than the Masculine preferred by many Autists and Commentators, because I believe it to be a group of people using advanced technology to manipulate perceptions for a desired outcome.  I have over two dozen articles outlining my research and thoughts on the Q Phenomenon.

With the background now established, where do we stand with this PsyOp?

As one can imagine, Q has been quite busy framing the Corona virus pandemic (DEMpanic) and the current riots in a way favorable to Q+ (POTUS), and which casts events as being thoroughly under control of military intel.

If at the back of your mind, you are hearing Psalm 23, you are getting the hang of this.

"We are at war, the war is real" is the consistent message Q has put out in the nearly three years it has been operating.  Trump has been fighting a war of wills against an insurgent cabal of both foreign and domestic enemies.  Trump is the only person strong enough and clean (scrubbed) enough to lead this war.  He is the only True Patriot smart enough to run a 4-D chess match against the enemy as the front man for NSA-based intel officers still loyal to God and Constitution.

Q began as one of several anonymous posters on 4chan in late 2017, all claiming to be government insiders in one department or agency, or another.  The one we now call Q seems to have been the one that people latched onto as being "authentic," though I suspect any of them would have led to the same place, perhaps with small modifications to the narrative.

A legitimate question at this point, for the objective observer, is whether current events were fomented by Q's messaging, or did Q accurately predict an inevitable or predetermined outcome.  It's a "chicken or egg" argument that could each consume a full-length book.  I suspect the forces Q and POTUS are up against had several scenarios planned, and it was the words and actions of Q/POTUS that made the current situation inevitable, perhaps desirable in their view.

Q frequently posts the statement, "optics are everything."  This implies to my mind that events are allowed to progress, no matter how destructive, until the popular mind has sufficiently framed those events in a way favorable to Q/POTUS.  Once the framing is achieved, Q/POTUS can act in a way that increases favorable marketing/poll results.  Favorable results increase the spread and esteem of Q/POTUS, thus forming a perfect feedback loop, with a nice shot of dopamine to reward the Qvians.

As friend and colleague Joseph P. Farrell likes to say, he who controls the interpretation of prophesy, controls its fulfillment.  We need to keep this in mind going forward.

One of the mantras of the Qniverse is "future proves the past."  Q has frequently said that its Drops and Prophesies (a word actually used in the Qniverse) can only be interpreted in the light of future events.  Here's how Q Prophesy works:

We will focus on Drop #14, from 1 November 2017, when Q was still posting as "Anonymous" on 4chan.  Note that the post begins with a famous painting of Washington crossing the Delaware in a Durham boat.

Attorney John Durham was brought into the Department of Justice on 27 October 2017, the day Q first began posting.  This is widely interpreted as signalling the long awaited Durham Report will carry POTUS to victory.

As you read the text, notice that nearly every line is a question that is not answered.  The questions are phrased in such a way as to allow multiple correct answers.  Whenever it is expedient, Q can point to any of the questions it has posted and say that current events have proved that question to be prescient.

This technique is equivalent to a carnival side-show mentalist saying, "I'm picking up a message for Mike.  Is there a Mike in here?"  If, in the unlikely event there are no Mikes, then he can say, "Maybe Mark?  The message is a little garbled."

Q14 lists an entire cast of "bad actors" who could easily make headlines at any time in the following 3-4 years, and Q can then say that it successfully predicted this when the timing is right.

This particular Drop, along with Q19, are causing a lot of chatter in the Qniverse, because obviously Q "foresaw" current events, though actually the questions could have multiple answers that change to match current events, and the mention of ANTIFA and Muslim Brotherhood (MB) are good bets for multiple situations.

Q19, dropped the same day as Q14, deals almost exclusively with the relationship between the Democrat Party and the black American population, and leaders and spokespeople.

In this case, there is roughly 170 years of history, the comments of LBJ on passing the welfare laws in 1965, and 50 years of modus operadi to draw on.  This is nearly as safe as predicting the sun will rise tomorrow, in terms of the picture Q is painting.

Notice also that Q14 and 19 were posted almost one year to the day after the election of POTUS, giving any think tank sufficient data to predict the actions of opponents into the future.  Add to the that the ability to capture and read electronic chatter (military intel, or MI), and one has a pretty solid handle on tactics and means of an opponent.

I should mention at this point that Q's assertions of being able to pick up and use electronic chatter of opponents is exactly what the Qvians are so angrily accusing the Obama administration of doing in the so-called Obamagate spying operation.

A common exclamation among Commentators right now is, "How did Q know this three years ago?!"

Having worked in theater and side-shows most of my life and knowing the tricks, I am hardly moved by these "predictions".  If Q had said, even speculatively, that a viral epidemic would sweep the world, and it would be followed by civil unrest based on racial issues, I would be first in the believers' line.

Q has even established an out in the case that any prediction appears way off.  It's disinformation.  Of course, the enemy reads the Q Drops too, and we can't give away everything can we?  Q doesn't even have to do the dirty work.  The Qvians themselves wave off any inaccuracies as false trails for the cabal to follow.

The answer is simple for anyone that has read American history covering the last 170 years.  Nearly all episodes of civil unrest and rioting have been fomented by the political left, and in pretty much every case has led to the overwhelming election of a right-wing administration.  Note specifically Lincoln in 1860, and Nixon in 1968.  We may infer the same forces electing Trump in 2016, and current events will most likely sweep him into office with a Nixonesque landslide in 2020.

What really bakes the noodle, with this established historical pattern in mind, are the political left in America actually trying to throw the election to Trump?    After all, Trump has proven so resilient to the left's machinations, and Q's Drops seem prescient enough, that one could infer a massive operation to engineer society on the part of both sides.  Just a few short years ago, the right would have fought tooth-and-nail against a national ID - especially for voting purposes - yet they are now begging for it.

As Q itself frequently says, we are watching a movie.  There is a nagging suspicion at the back of my brain that this is all a huge game to get the right wing to demand everything they would have rebelled against less than half a decade ago.  And this is what makes me so suspicious of Q, and Trump.

Q seems to know what will happen years ahead of time.  Q claims to have recruited Trump.  Trump always seems ahead of the game.  The left seems to play right into political traps.  The left has put up a candidate that so obviously feeble and incoherent that no one could seriously vote for him, unless out of sheer spite or misguided loyalty.

Everything together smacks of a thrown election, creating a hero of such power and stature that even the most hard-boiled anti-statists would follow him right over the cliff.

Why, it's almost as if the whole thing, on all sides and in every detail, has been planned, and that Trump is not only the desired outcome of so-called white nationalists, but is in fact the product of a collusion of both sides of the aisle.  The Democrats appear to be falling on their swords to create a single-party system with all the trappings of a totalitarian regime.  And thanks to Q, the right-wing conservative resistance is waltzing right into it thinking they are patriots every step of the way.

When I am working on a puzzle, I know I am on the right track when the pieces start to form a coherent image.  In this case, all the pieces don't seem to add up until one imagines it is completely staged on all sides to herd people in a very specific direction while subverting all their normal cautions and reservations.

Q has successfully merged religion, politics, militarism, commerce, and social engineering into a tight little package.  It has people around the world spouting slogans, while deriding people who spout slogans.  I has people praising the use of logic and reason, while accepting unconditionally everything they are told.  It has framed a political leader as a quasi-religious figure appointed by God to clean up all the injustices of the world and save us from damnation.  It has gotten people who previously would have panicked over the Chief Executive threating to use the military on US soil cheering for it - even begging.

You tell me if this seems normal in the cold light of reason.

Is the revolution a left-right battle?  Or is it the final push for something much more nefarious and frightening?

Post Scriptum: A great many Qvians have whipped themselves into a froth over the possibility of Barack Obama and/or Hillary Clinton being brought up on charges of treason.  If this ever happens, and it is a Big If, there are a number of problems with it.

The US Constitution grants Congress the sole power to "declare war," however there are no formal or proscribed formats for such things.  The last time Congress actually "declared war" was 5 July 1942, when it passed a joint declaration of war against Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria.  More recently, Congress passed a joint "authorization to use military force" in the wake of 9/11, to authorize the president to use the military to fight terrorism.


This gets problematic when one wants to indict someone of treason.  In the US, 18USC2381 creates a criminal act called treason.  If found guilty, the perpetrator may be jailed for not less than 5 years, fined not less than $10,000, and could receive the death penalty.

Treason in the US is defined as levying war against the States, or giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the States.

It gets murky in that the US has not actually "declared war" for nearly 80 years, and knowing how attorneys love to parse words, is an "authorization to use military force" legally the same as a declaration?  If so, then the accused must be shown to be a legal combatant on behalf of a foreign power which has declared war on the US, or show that the accused knowingly gave aid and comfort to an enemy that has decalred war on the US.

A combatant is defined by the Customary IHL, Rule 3, under international law.  Combatants are only members of the Armed Forces, excepting medical and religious personnel, and thus are uniformed and identifiable as combatants.  Otherwise, we are into a really murky realm of espionage, and I don't have the energy to dive into that topic here.

Thus, to get an indictment - and ultimately a conviction - of treason, there must be a declared war, which alone would take years to sort out the legal tangle of that mess, and the accused would have to be a combatant or spy on behalf of the declared enemy, which itself is a bowl of legal spaghetti.

The chances of any of the chast of characters the Qvians salivate over being indicted, tried and convicted of treason in their lifetimes is slim to nil, given their current ages.  There are at least a half dozen Supreme Court decisions just waiting to happen, not to mention questions that are far more complex than the meaning of "is".

If any indictments and/or convictions come out of the Qniverse Fantasyland, they may well lead to new and modified legislation going forward.  At a minimum, we can expect the entire process to wend its way through the frozen molasses of government in the next 30-40 years.

I find it highly improbable that anyone of significant status within the Qniverse Fantasyland to ever see the inside of a courtroom, much less a jail cell.  Judicial Watch has been trying to haul Hillary Clinton into court for a deposition under oath, and even with court orders and piles of evidence, they can't even get her in the same State as the court.

And just to rub salt in the wound, many of the players in Qniverse Fantasyland have or had at the time sovereign immunity.  If you want to understand that term, you're on your own.  Good luck!

19.4.19

The Q Genesis

Previous posts:
Deep Throat v. Q
Q The Conspiracy - A Phenomenon
The Gospel According To Q
A-Marketing We Will Q
The Name Of The Q
Q The LARP Carp
Spe-Q-lating On Q
In The Twilight Of The Q
Jonesing For Q
Analyzing Q-Analysis
The Q Prophesy
To Q Or Not To Q
A Quantum Of Q-Bit
Surfing the Q Wave
CQ CQ CQ
Q Tips And Quislings
Some Quick Q
The Voice Of Q
The Q Treason
Q The Endgame
Right On Q?
Q The God-Emperor
Who Is Q?
Behold The Qult
Notre Dame du Q

READER NOTE: Updates appear at the end of this article.

Two questions I frequently receive from readers are, "How did Q start," and "Is it true Q recruited Trump?"

These are difficult questions, because the answers have been so muddied with myth and legend by now.  It is still possible, however, to get very close to how this all began, and to answer the question of recruitment.  The answer to this latter question is very disturbing and is one of the principle reasons I turned negative on Q.

First, how did Q begin?

As far as anyone knows, Q's first generally recognized post was on 4chan on 28 October 2017, at 15:44 EST.  This post claimed that Hillary Clinton would be arrested on the morning of 30 October 2017, and that the military was tasked with the arrest, while the National Guard (State unspecified) was on alert for both social unrest/riots and to apprehend running perpetrators.  We were told Clinton's passport had been flagged and that extradition processes had already been initiated with several countries.

We should note several details here.  Firstly, the entity posting this message is "Anonymous" without the now-ubiquitous "Q" signature; and secondly, there are 50 National Guards - one in each State - and that some were indeed activated to assist with the devastation in Puerto Rico following Hurricane Maria.

To trace this all back to the deepest roots requires going back  a full year before Q's first post.  Around 30 October 2016, a series of mysterious tweets appeared on the verified FBI Document Vault account.  The account itself is quite fascinating, but some of the original tweets appear to have been deleted, though there are a number of independent references to them (dead links).

In the middle of the night, 17 tweets appeared that detailed investigations of Donald Trump's father and uncle, who apparently had FBI connections.  They also released copies of the Hillary Clinton and Gen. David Petaeus investigations, as well as a copy of the FBI investigation manual.  What this ostensibly showed was the profound lack of depth in the Clinton investigation and the violations of procedure, and thus the corruption evident within the FBI.

We note the number 17, as this is a significant number in the Qniverse, because Q is the 17th letter of the English alphabet.  Also note in the linked video, Trump mentions McDill AFB, which we have connected to Q in Who Is Q?

Interestingly, one of the claims by this series of tweets was that social media and viral news had made it possible to skirt media gatekeepers and allow "insiders" to get information directly to the masses.  As with Q, this was considered a confirmed post by the time stamp of precisely 11am and including "coded" messages.

The "coded" messages were in the form of several FBI manuals, whose order and topics were said to tell a story.  For instance, the posting of the FBI's manual on health regimens was said to indicate Hillary Clinton's health issues.

In fact, the exact same language of "it's all over" and the "house of cards collapsed" used by Q appears in these tweets a full year before Q arrived.  Based on this information, little has changed in more than two years, yet the Qvians are constantly crowing how the end is nigh!

All the pieces of Q were extant a full year before Q "officially" appeared.  This implies that the Q psy-op has been modifying its message and techniques for some time, beginning during the Obama administration.  This gives us a clue that Q did not just "appear" on the scene, but was the fruit of a long process of testing how to use social media effectively to deliver propaganda.

One item I note with great interest is that these tweets appear to be the origin of the Hillary Health narrative.

This was followed by the appearance of several "government insiders" on 4chan, such as "FBIanon" and WhiteHouseAnon" and others, who reportedly had leaked information as well as specific predictions of future events.  FBIanon was generally considered credible, but for some reason, the entity that would become Q was given the most attention despite having made the above prediction that was so obviously wrong.

In any event, this series of tweets implied that Trump was recruited by FBI insiders concerned with the level of government corruption and undue influence of George Soros in militarizing police departments around the country.  It averred that Trump's uncle was well respected in the FBI and that his father was considered a patriot - and that Donald Trump was "clean".  We'll come back to that last item shortly.

This entity was said to have called itself a "Q Clearance Patriot," implying that it had top-level secret clearance (Q Clearance).  A search reveals that the only known all-access Q-Clearance in the US federal government is in the Department of Energy, which hardly seems related to military intelligence operations, though energy is certainly a highly strategic resource.

What is curious is that there are no references to "Q Clearance Patriot" in any of the 3312 Q Drops to date.  This term seems to have appeared either in posts by other "insiders" on 4chan, or in Reddit commentary well outside the preferred Q Domain.

The earliest reference I can find to the moniker "Q" being applied to this entity is in the article linked here.  The writer says, "Now let's get back to this new alleged insider, who calls himself "Q Clearance Patriot" (I'll use "Q")."  This is the earliest reference to using "Q" as short for "Q Clearance Patriot" that I can ascertain.

In this article, we note that there are references to "FBIanon" and "White House Anon," who are credited with accurate predictions of upcoming events. Reddit links are provided in the article and I will leave that judgement to the reader.

So it seems that Q was just one of several "anonymous insiders" who were posting leaks on Twitter and 4chan in the early days.

Within the scope of the model I proposed in Who Is Q?, we might think of these as separate teams working on the same goals with different approaches to see which one resonated most with the general public on the "chans".

This same article also seems to be one of the earliest references to the now-common Q Myth that Donald Trump was recruited by military intelligence to run for president in 2016.  His primary goal, it says, would be to "drain the swamp" with special focus on "pizzagate/child trafficking".  Note:
"B. Q'a [sic] overall theory (that Trump was recruited by military intelligence to stage a quiet coup to restore government integrity) fits with several things we know about the military.
"First of all, the military has a very low rate of Jewish people. For some mysterious reason, Jewish people rose to disproportionate levels of power in finance, lobbying, Hollywood, and media, but not in the military. If you look at the picture of Trump with his military team ("calm before the storm"), you see virtually no Jewish people there. FBIanon, who is widely regarded as the most credible of the 4chan insiders, said that the deep state corruption has a heavy Jewish influence."

The article header says that it was posted "1.4 years ago," as of the date of this writing,  which would place it about Novermber-December 2017, or within a month or two of Q's first appearing.  This would be confirmed by the author's reference to "Snoop Dogg's new album cover," which was released in November 2017.

We note that the article cites both Q and Anon (Apostles and Acolytes) sources as saying Trump was recruited for a "coup" against The Swamp, and that the military had pledged to protect Trump leading to his appearance of being "cool, calm and collected" in the face of widespread threats and near-constant media attacks.

By April 2018, another article avers that Dr. Jerome Corsi was approached by a group of generals in 2015, and told that the military had recruited Trump to run for president and lead the "coup" against The Swamp:
"According to veteran investigative reporter and best selling author, Dr. Jerome Corsi, he was approached three years ago by a group of generals and told that Donald Trump had been recruited by U.S. military intelligence to run in the 2016 Presidential elections, and subsequently help remove corrupt Deep State officials from positions of power. Corsi claims that QAnon represents the same group of senior military intelligence officials who are exposing the Deep State corruption and officials involved in a history of treasonous actions against the U.S. Republic."
Corsi and Alex Jones were later disavowed by Q, and not long after that, Corsi was arrested as part of Robert Mueller's Special Counsel investigation into Russian influence in the 2016 election.  The reader should see my article Jonesing For Q for extended discussion of these events.

To summarize the Q Legend so far, we have military intelligence - or was it FBI insiders? - formulating a "coup" against select groups within the US federal government, referred to as The Swamp.  The favorable status of Trump's uncle and father within the FBI is given as part of the reason he was selected.  Child trafficking and police militarization (Soros influence) were cited as two primary motivations for the coup.

Among the issues that alarmed the military was the undue influence of Jewish interests within the various agencies of government, and in external industries like media, finance and lobbying.

Thus, Q is a function of military intelligence designed to provide "insider" information to the general public and sway opinion against The Swamp, as well as provide updates on efforts to "drain the swamp" as part of an operation popularly referred to as The Storm and/or The Plan.

If we take these assumptions to be true, then some disturbing inferences fall out of them.

If Trump was indeed recruited to be the front man for a military coup within the federal government, then there must have been some means by which they could have ensured that Trump would win.  After all, Trump was probably the least likely candidate to beat Hillary Clinton, and would explain why the media and the the Clinton campaign gave so much time and attention to the Trump campaign.  They had selected Trump as their preferred opponent, thinking he would be a sure loser.  Thus, the near-absolute assurance in the media that Clinton would win the election.

This implies that somehow the Clinton campaign and the media were swayed to choose Trump as the preferred opponent.  The only other possible explanation was that Trump was selected by a "higher power," and the campaign was choreographed, with or without Clinton's knowledge and approval.  If Clinton knew, then everything we have witnesses since 2015 has been a kabuki theater to achieve some goal that we are not yet aware of.

This implies that the military had some way to "steer" the election and guarantee their selected front man would win.  In other words, it was not Russian influence that defeated Clinton, but the US military itself by manipulating the election.

If we assume that Q represents an advanced propaganda technology, as I have argued extensively in previous articles, then it is no far reach to conclude that the Q technology was used to influence voters via social media and targeted messages.

The Q Naratie that Trump was recruited includes the idea that the military had refrained from an open coup during the Obama administration, and that it would have no choice but to do so under a Clinton administration.  That places rather weighty stakes on the 2016 election outcome and would be sufficient reason to use every means available to ensure a favorable election outcome.

This Narrative also implies that The Swamp, The Storm and The Plan all refer to a concerted effort to rid the US federal government of "Jewish" influence.  This seemingly anti-Jewish, and by extention anti-Israel stance by Q would seem to be backed up by Q916, from 10 March 2018, where Q states, "We are saving Israel for last."

However, this flies in the face of Trump's actions to move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, and to recognize Israel's sovereignty over the Golan Heights.

In Q137, from 12 November 2017, Q posted a list of national central banks without any other commentary.  Since "Jewish" control of Finance was established early on in the Q Narrative as being a problem, we can assume that the list of banks represents targets of some kind for The Storm/The Plan.

Another implication of all this is that military intelligence would have had to scrub Trump's background in order to leave little or no dirt for the opposition to use against him.

When one considers just how "clean" Trump has been, it seems unnatural for an individual in his position, both in public and private life.  We know that a recording was unearthed during the 2016 campaign from someone's private collection, of Trump making disparaging remarks about the behavior of women around wealthy men.  This is no secret to any worldly individual, but it did cause some momentary dust-ups in the campaign.

Other than that, the only negative information that has been uncovered by extensive Senate, House, Special Counsel, and opposition research over the past three years was the Steele Dossier, which appears to have been completely fabricated.

Are we to assume that a man who has had some very nasty and public divorces, owned a casino, owned the Miss Universe brand, dealt in highly corrupt New York real estate, and been through several bankruptcies is completely spotless?  Most of us would hardly stand up to this kind of scrutiny without some skeletons falling out of the closet.  Even Mother Teresa was not without sin.

To date, there is no unquestionable proof of shady business dealings, financial hanky-panky, nor underhanded anti-competitive practices.  The most visible accusation of sexual misconduct was from Stormy Daniels (interesting first name in this context), who lost her suit and was saddled with $300,000 in legal defense fees and her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, has recently been indicted on multiple counts of fraud, embezzlement, tax evasion and various other crimes.

It seems highly unlikely that Trump is an angel, so someone (military intel?) has scrubbed his past to ensure that nothing of any consequence could be uncovered, no matter how deeply someone might dig.  I am not attempting to sully the man, but only wish to point out his unnatural cleanliness.  It seems almost impossible to become a multi-billionaire with real estate and media empires, and not have something to hold over him.

The only other possibility that comes to mind is that the Clinton campaign, media heads and other public watchdogs have agreed not to publish anything damaging about Trump.  It seems far more likely that his past was scrubbed.

Which leads us to the question: does military intelligence have something on Trump to ensure his compliance?

It seems reasonable to assume that if military intel recruited Trump as front man, scrubbed his past, rigged an election, and is providing unprecedented protection for he and his family, then that same group must have insurance that Trump will act as needed to achieve the stated goals (The Plan).  Thus, Trump is trapped and is not making his own decisions.  He is performing a scripted function on behalf of a well shaded group whose actual identity and motives we can only guess at.

These are very disturbing inferences, and I make no secret that they are inferences and suppositions.  However, they fall naturally out of the information we have, and which I have documented extensively across a great many articles on topic.  While we have little irrefutable evidence to back up these assumptions, we also have none to allay them.

I have proven that Q is a psy-op, and argued that it is indeed a function of military intel, and have proposed who, where and how Q functions.  Given that psy-ops function in a murky world of half-truths and outright lies, we cannot - at this point - be sure of any of these data points.

However, if we take Q and the Anons (Apostles and Acolytes) at face value, then the questions raised here must be addressed, or accept that a growing social and political movement is based on highly deceptive and even frightening foundations.

It is well known and even assumed that most political leaders are controlled by special interests.  Even a cursory glance at donor lists tells us unequivocally that these leaders are beholden to private and corporate interests that don't necessarily mesh with our own.

Though the popular image is that Trump is free of influence because he used his own fortune and did not kow-tow to special interests to get elected, we can plainly see that this may not be the case.  In fact, having a leader in the nation's highest office who is literally owned and operated by the military is anathema to American ideals and simply dangerous to an open and functional republic.

It is at this point that we would do well to rehearse the words of Dwight Eisenhauer in his final speech to the nation as president:
"Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence—economic, political, even spiritual—is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet, we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications."

If Q represents a group of military leaders who have become alarmed in recent years over the direction of the nation, and have just barely resisted the urge to launch an outright coup and establish a provisional junta, why now?

In the last 70 years, we have had assassinations, illegal wars and a central bank quite obviously robbing the wealth of a nation.  There has been ample reason for a military intervention to "protect and defend the Constitution."  Yet, only now has the military seen fit to intervene?  The JFK assassination alone was clearly a coup d'etat, but it was the Obama administration and the possibility of a second Clinton administration that compelled this action?

Doesn't pass the smell test.

For Q followers, it is high time to question blind allegiance to this entity.  For the rest of us, it is well past time to question what it is that claims to protect the president and to push into the open whether the Legend of Q is true and what influence does it have over political leadership.

While Qvians sincerely believe they know who/what Q is, and what the agenda behind it is, in fact they have no clue other than what a disembodied anonymous poster has told them.

The rest of us may blithely dismiss Q as a "conspiracy theory," but the fact remains that it is having a very real effect on public discourse and the decisions made by a significant number of individuals within the electorate.

As I have outlined here, the questions, assumptions and rational conclusions that fall out of the available data are disturbing and need to be addressed.  Both the responsible media (such as it is) and we, the unenthralled public, must push this issue to the front and get whatever facts we can on the table in order to make informed decisions as the next election cycle heats up.

It is reasonable to assume that Qvians and Q itself will have an influence on the 2020 elections.  Can we afford to be uncritical and uninformed on the nature and agenda of this entity?

In conclusion, we now know that Q is just the latest "version" of an effort dating to at least 2015, and possibly 2014 and before.  It was originally thought to be coming from the FBI, then later military intelligence, but in both cases, Trump was recruited to run for president.  The origins of much of the Q Legend appear pre-2017, with coded messages, synchronized time stamps, and so forth; however, it seems to be Trump's contribution to push catch phrases like "The Storm," "The Plan," and "Where we go one we go all."  I say this because Trump is an undisputed marketing genius, so he would naturally formulate tag lines and catch phrases that would stick in the mind, much like "Make America Great Again."

It appears that the original Q efforts centered around Twitter, however the use of censorship algorithms likely made this outlet untenable, so the "chans" were chosen for their non-censorship policies, with Trump using Twitter to issue companion posts, as the White House would be less likely to encounter blatant censorship there.

We have seen the origin of at least one meme that weighed heavily on the Clinton campaign - the health issue.  This implies more waiting to be found, and thus a fingerprint of efforts to steer the election in spite of the MSM constant drumbeat in favor of Clinton.  I suspect many more of these memes are waiting to be found in the vast volume of pre-election electronic chatter.

The lynch pin of the Q psy-op is the issue of pizzagate/child trafficking (see note below).  No matter how far afield one wanders in this investigation, one always stumbles over this underlying issue.  It is a matter of faith in Q that this issue will finally be exposed and the entire world power structure based on it will collapse under its weight.  This is certainly a key feature in the belief that there are 90,000+ Sealed Indictments against participants in this scandal.  To be seen...

Altogether, this reinforces my assertion that Q is a psy-op and that it has undergone a fairly extensive development process, with significant input from Trump's marketing background.  This is an emerging technology, which is still being perfected and will likely play an enormous role in the upcoming 2020 elections.

Given the history of Q, it stands to reason that it will continue to evolve and become more effective.  We would do well to keep a close eye on it going forward.

Oh, and we have now traced Q's appearance to within two years - almost to the day - that Cicada 3301 first appeared and simultaneous with Cicada's 3rd Puzzle, which also appeared on Twitter.

More to come.

In  response to reader comments, we are well aware that Wikipedia is completely untrustworthy as a primary source of information.  However, we have found the External Links section to be quite valuable on many occasions.  With regard to Pizzagate, the original, authoritative and most trustworthy source for this information is the Podesta Email released by WikiLeaks.
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UPDATE 21 APRIL 2019: I've found conclusive evidence that Q Drops are edited and past Drops are deleted due to "mistakes" by Q.  The video linked here refers to several Drops from 1 Aug 18, that no longer exist on "official" Q boards.  I have archived the video to maintain a permanent record, as it will likely disappear soon, as well.